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15 November 2017


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I just knew that the title was either going to reference the 12 Points or the National Song.
Well done. At first I was afraid that there won't be a good overview on the Hungarian situation, but the three episodes did a great job laying that out.
One correction though, there were no Czechs living in Hungary, only Slovaks.


I was just about to complaint about the same :)

Czechs (Bohemia) were part of Austrian, that is the western, part of the empire, NEVER Hungary. Bohemia laid in NW corner of the Habsburg's monarchy. There was no minority of Czechs living in Hungary worth to mention either.

Kingdom of Bohemia, national state of Czechs, was part of the Holy Roman Empire since 10th century, and tied to Austria since 1526; whereas Slovaks were part never really had their own state and were part of Hungary since Arpad's invasion.

That is one of the reasons why Czechoslovakia split in 1993. Though linguistically so close nations, we never shared history.

I home that Mike would dedicate an episode to events in Bohemia, as revolution of 1848 was a big thing there too; though failed it was a large milestone in Czechs' own "risorgimento", Czech national identity revival, that is "národní obrození", culminating in creation of independent, democratic, strongly liberal republic in 1918.


you mentioned that general Windisch-Grätz was a Czech noble.
In that case you should have also mentioned that field marshal Radetzky, from the Italian episode, was Czech too. Joseph Radetzky von Radetz is in fact Josef Václav Radecký z Radče. Whereas Windisch-Grätz was for practical purposes German residing, owning estates, in Bohemia, Radecký was undisputedly Czech, and not ending up shooting into Czechs like W-G; though still totally loyal to Habsburgs, so not scoring high in Czech pantheon of historic personalities.

There is a famous march by Johann Strauss named after him -
Radetzky March. It's quite a catchy tune, perhaps you can, for once, change the podcast tune when the right time comes ;)


For a second I thought that said 'Slavs no more' and was thinking Hungarian Nationalism suddenly took a dark turn.


On that somewhat musical note, I think it would be interesting to do a "musical episode" once if it fits. Either "revolutionary anthems" that are still known (Yankee Doodle, La Marseillaise etc.) or those that were popular at the time and in a certain fashion propelled the people on the barricades.

Of course getting to hear them would be another plus. You could maybe do it as a supplemental, lay out the background and translate salient parts of the lyrics.

As for the 1848 revolutions, I know of two German songs that are still perceived as connected to that era (though the original text and melody were around before that) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Gedanken_sind_frei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pDTs7TYE98

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